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Bull3t
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PostSubject: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2008 12:04 pm

Hey are there any undetected bots out that i can use?

Please let me know!
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2008 2:44 pm

Ya prob. Smile however ur new here and i dont think if any of the undetected hacks we might or might not have are going to be given to u the first week or so since you've joined. but to say for sure. i have no clue
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2008 7:18 pm

Dr.Flu wrote:
Ya prob. Smile however ur new here and i dont think if any of the undetected hacks we might or might not have are going to be given to u the first week or so since you've joined. but to say for sure. i have no clue

ya i understand..its all good
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2008 8:41 pm

Asking sure won't get anything from me. Atleast from me, anything released here will be on UC-forum first so if you are just hanging around here hoping for something exclusive, i hate to tell you but its not gonna work. In my eyes this is a forum for support and sharing of ideas, not for people to leach hacks so they can go pretend to be good.
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2008 12:25 am

and crazyninja fires up :p

there has been a lul in the sharing of cheats on uc and mpc over the last year or 2... u go look at the topics of releases per version and it rapidly diminishes after 2.6 Sad

Oh well keep on ragin :D
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2008 12:49 am

I released my bot :D... twice. The reason is the death of uscript for noobs and the fact that PB is quick responding now... It used to be that a simple hook could go for weeks before pb would take any action. Now hooks taht could last weeks die in a day... and hooks that would last months die in a week Sad the pattern scanning that they nabbed my second release with is quite risky, as in certain very rare situations the patterns could be replicated by legitimate software Sad. I got a project you might be interested in now bbq... Self modifying code? that would make any attempts at finding a consistent pattern useless.
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2008 2:45 am

Yea definitely crazyninja++ on rep for sharing - i know the pain on the detections and they do rape public releases in AA now well have for a while.

Jesus self modifying code sounds rather complex lol - I think pb is way to tight on its kicks. Just the other week i was getting a kick for invalid driver blah blah and it was kicking me for my G15 - G5 (Setpoint and Macro's) software being loaded. I mean thats just complete bullshit - means i can't have the software loaded at all while running the game. I often wonder whether a lot of the detections are really boardering on the grey area and almost partaking in the stab in the dark realm.

Even self modifying code would be detectable - as there always will be a pattern in anything computer orientated... Just as their is a pattern in RL... I guess if you could base the pattern off something that is complex in its dynamic nature so that is very hard to see/determine the pattern it could be quite useful.

Anway perhaps discuss or elaborate on your idea in the privi section Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2008 3:17 am

Well what i have already said is pretty much the extent of my idea Razz. the purpose mainly would be to force pb to implement another scanning function/technique. Currently the problem for pb is just to analyze the computer with the hack loaded and find a patter, or just changed memory that they can scan, then update their scans which can be done with no update to the client. If there was a hack released that can not be detected by their current client it will buy the cheaters some extra time, instead of 1 week of use you could possible get 2 weeks of use out of it (Code design and debug time). Of course the more different methods they use to detect a hack the more places for us to attack their client directly Razz eventually they could be strung out to thin to defend themselves at all. This kind of thing would be a very large project taking quite a long time, not doable by any one person or team. At somepoint Max Power suggested something like it on UC-Forum. His idea was to attempt to unify the efforts of all the people working on game hacks, to do what i just suggested: stretch PB is in so many different ways that they break. With the lack of knowledgeable/willing people to do anything for the public, his idea failed miserably with only a few replies. It makes me sad that i have so many ideas that i cant begin to implement myself Sad


Yay for long jumbled one paragraph posts. Bed time.
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2008 8:43 am

ya iv been talking with uNrEaL and im working on Patching pb or bypassing it thru a view idea's he gave me, so if/when i manage to accomplish that ill be handing it to a few of you guys as a means to keep us all going but ya just gotta hang in there. i managed to hook other functions for my postrender,tick,exec ect. tho mem check is being a dick haha but anyways working on it. if i do, then i dont see a problem mayb releasing a public undetected
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2008 7:58 pm

rofl he pm'ed me asking me if i want the hacks...lawl
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2008 8:02 pm

Thread moderated. User banned.
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PostSubject: Re: Any bots out?   Any bots out? I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2008 11:13 pm

man a WWI type (Gallipoli) assualt on pb (the nazi's) sounds like a dam worthy cause imo. I am sure my reversing skills are about 0 at the moment so i wouldn't be too much help. However i have finished uni for the year now - so its time for me to do what i want to learn and if it means raging pb then it is worth the long hours and late nights ^^
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